Hi all. I have done a fair amount of reading about diagrams and such on this forum, though super complex diagrams confuse me as I don’t have the best understanding of circuits and wiring, in Esk8s.
I spent a little time today making these diagrams of potential things I would like to add to my super simple wiring I will be using on my first build. The wiring I will be using currently is the same as the diagram for the voltage meter but without the voltage meter if that makes any sense . The first link is to a potential diagram for an LED voltage meter such as this one, Voltage Meter. I designed the Voltage Meter diagram to have the meter after the loop key so it will only turn on once the board turns on, though I am not sure if it will work. The second link is to a potential design of a charging port. I am fairly sure that the Voltage Meter diagram will work but am not so sure about how well the Charging Port wiring will function. These changes are all being made in an effort to achieve the final goal of having an enclosure that I don’t need to open for charging or to check voltage.
The voltage meter connection looks fine. The charging port diagram will work but it doesn’t need to be separate.
As you are discharging in series you can charge I’m series as well. Just move the positive to the other batteries positive and connect the balance wires to a x2 3S to 6S adaptor like this one. https://www.amazon.com/JST-XH-6S-3S-BALANCE-ADAPTER/dp/B01BZLE7F6
Mount the 6S side to the enclosre.
I see what you are saying, however there are two problems. The first is that I have two 4s batteries so that connector will not work . The second is that I would do that as it is clearly the easier option but I only have a 6s capable charger, not an 8s. Thanks for the confirmation of the voltage meter connection.
Yes, I will look into it but as a student I am on a budget as you can imagine . Are you sure that the configuration for the charging port would work though because that would be the cheaper route.
The charging configuration will work, just make sure you include the balance connections. You can technically charge lipos without balance charging, but it’s not a good idea. Cell drift is the death of lipos.
I’d recommend using an 8S BMS because having to charge each battery like that and having your JST balance connectors coming out of your board is a huge pain in the ass because they can get corroded. And I can’t stress this enough, DONT cheap out on things! I get that your on a budget, I was to when I first built my board, but I only ended up spending way more money fixing the problems I could have just prevented if I had just spent a little more in the beginning.
Hmmmmmm, as of right now, I am probably going to stick with my setup without a BMS. This is simply because I already have the charger, and the materials to make the charging setup/diagram I have designed. Would putting an empty (empty meaning no wires coming off from it) JST balance cable on the protruding one help prevent corrosion? How about a rubber cover? I would use a defiantly use a rubber cover on the XT60 connectors that would be sticking out. On the next build (I am already thinking of the next one before this one is done ) I defiantly plan on using a BMS as well as making my own Liion 18650 pack. Thanks for your help!
No I already tried that lol. Water still gets in there and just ruins them. You could try making some sort of rubber cover for it with silicon or something. Also you can get an 8S BMS on AliExpress for right around $20 FYI.
How about making a rubber cover out of Proto Putty? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fwytA5r2Mw
The problem with the BMS for me is I have absolutely no idea how to set one up. I have read of how to do it but for some reason it goes right over my head.
Yeah I think that putty might work perfectly! I know GreatScott on YouTube has a build log of his EBoard were he used a JST connector coming out of his enclosure so you might want to check out how he went about doing it. Also wiring up a BMS is super simple, you just connect your JST connector into it, and wire your charging port to it. Plenty of people on here have done it so you could totally figure it out.
I think I’ll go the route of the exposed connector/putty for now and tackle the BMS later. Thanks for everything btw. If you don’t mind me asking, soldering the voltage meter directly into the power cables should be alright correct? And in my setup the meter would only turn on once the board turns on right?
What charger u using?
Single channel or duo?
I have a same charging setup with you too.
But when hook up to my dual channel charge, my charge get spark and dead.
I was planning on just charging each battery one at a time… but I do have a parallel charging board so I guess I could use that. Although I don’t trust it as much in terms of balancing because it takes the average of each of the cells and charges to that if that makes any sense.
I guess that would work, but it’s just going to make it a pain to charge. Best option would obviously be charging in series at 8S, but then you’d need a different charger so yeah.
I have seen that yes, and I had thought that it wouldn’t really come into play until now! lol. That would make things a little easier I guess but it could always be added later. I never knew I was going to be giving myself so much extra work by creating this thread! But in the end it should make for a better build.
. The first link is to a potential diagram for an LED voltage meter such as this one, Voltage Meter. I designed the Voltage Meter diagram to have the meter after the loop key so it will only turn on once the board turns on, though I am not sure if it will work. The second link is to a potential design of a charging port. I am fairly sure that the Voltage Meter diagram will work but am not so sure about how well the Charging Port wiring will function. These changes are all being made in an effort to achieve the final goal of having an enclosure that I don’t need to open for charging or to check voltage.
. Are you sure that the configuration for the charging port would work though because that would be the cheaper route.