DieBie JTAG 12s BMS | Gauging Interest | NONPROFIT

Dammit! At least you guys can work through all the kinks before mine shows upšŸ˜‰

@fedestanco have these all been shipped? And if so could you send me through a tracking number, I quite enjoy refreshing tracking site pagesā€¦ apparently.

Christmas seems to have really clogged up the local post service. Another package I had shipped from the UK on the 15th of Nov, and Iā€™m still waiting for it to show.

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Hi guys. Everything has already been shipped on thursday, as promised. Sorry if I havenā€™t emailed you the tracking numbers yet, tomorrow I will do that.

Btw my PC stopped working so I still havenā€™t started making the HOW-TO pdf. Maybe I will draw the very basic instructions on my phone and publish them here.

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I think I felt something move down below. Is it weird that a photo of a BMS has this effect?

take your time on the instructions, iā€™d rather have them right then right now. :slight_smile:

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Does anyone have a copy of vest tool 0.82? Thatā€™s the version we need to connect to the bms.

If you have a Mac? -> https://github.com/rpasichnyk/vesc_tool/releases

Finally got everything working! Screw terminals are a walk in the park, love them! Hereā€™s some pics:

@fedestanco @JTAG you guys did an awesome job!

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Dajum this is clean! Love the display, and the wiring! It all looks so neat.

Where did you find the display?

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Thanks! Its super easy to have clean wiring with screw terminals :slight_smile:

I got the display from ebay, i prefer this one as its a bit smaller, 32pixels vs 64: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/332047978840

So you updated the driver and images to support this new resolution? Respect!

No, just used the defaults, its just squeezed.

Wow! Finally received it. Looks good :slight_smile:

The winter has come around here, so I will install this the coming months.

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Hi guys. I almost forgot the most the most important thing: donations. I ordered few extra naked pcbs; 100% of this saleā€™s profits will be forwarded to @jtagā€™s paypal.

2oz copper on inner and outer layers enig gold immersion fr4 laminate

oshpark price: 130$ for 3 my price: 15euro/each (please buy 2 at least)

*sorry for pics quality

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is that for just the PCB without the pressed in terminals or anything baked onto it?

Pcb as shown on picture (no components installed). Somebody may not agree with me but I believe oshpark is definitely overpriced.

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Thatā€™s ludicrous. $43 per unit is ludicrous, even for that level of complexity.

I want to try my hand at baking these on my own. I just bought a reflow oven. Iā€™m also hoping to be able to bake the rest of the things i use in house as well, such as the VESC6 and my eswitches.

Iā€™m tired of relying on volatile supply chains, and any chance to use elbow grease instead of cash is worth looking at.

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I believe hand soldering is only good for prototyping and repairs. Are the 20$ you save hand making vescs really worth 2 hours of your time? The truth is everytime I imagine you doing repetitive stuff like spot welding, I die a little inside. You are here to make art, let robots(or chinese) do the copy-paste job.

Btw no matter how hard you try, new generation pick&place robots will always be much more accurate than human shaky hands :slight_smile:

You may have missed the part where i mentioned i bought a reflow oven. Iā€™m not scared of manual pick-n-place, nor am i currently under any pressure to produce these. If it doesnā€™t work out oh well.

Donā€™t die inside. If you had any idea how much money i save building my own packs youā€™d feel better. Iā€™m also damned good at it now and can knock out even a huge pack in just a couple hours. The evolve mods, for instance. The entire mod, machining the deck, welding and wiring the pack, and installing everything and testing is only three hours now. Last year it would have taken me all day.

Besides, if works out i can hire some kids to come in and do the manual stuff.

Look at what @chaka is doing. Lots of people thought it was a bad idea for him to vertically integrate as well. Now heā€™s got the best 4.12 format direct fet VESC in existence. Eventually iā€™m going to do it regardless but i thought i would start dipping a toe into making things now instead of next year.

Iā€™m starting with this: https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/MSM2M9LC

Its just a simple triple FET eswitch with support for LED angel-eyes. I just ordered 9 of them and iā€™m going to make them myself to get an idea of how stupid this plan really is. Iā€™ll probably do a VESC 4.12 next to get a handle on it before i do anything more complex.

There is no timeline on this, iā€™m already very busy, but it needs to happen eventually so why not start trying things out between stuff in my wait-time.

i know its hard to tell sometimesā€¦ but iā€™m building a factory. And as the Steeze Lord of this factory, i must have knowledge of all workings and understandings. If i havenā€™t at least tried my hand at pick-n-place-n-bake-n-spray then i would have failed everyone.

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Mine arrived maximus happimus

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This is great, being able to repair stuff on your own is faster and cheaper.

The only companies that are doing well in my country are following the same plan: do it locally and do it better. Maybe if oshpark started a USA pick&place service heā€™d jump on that; the premium package he sells contains extreme QC, R&D, amazonā€™s style service. Auto-assembly wouldnā€™t ruin any of that.

Interesting fact: Michelangelo didā€™t fisically paint all of his paintings; he had assistants to fill most of the easy and repetitive sections like the sky.

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