Noob VESC question

ESK8 Electronics
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Hey guys, still relatively new here so please bare with me :wink: basically last year I decided I was going to build a board and bought most of the electronics but ditched the project for a while as I had no time, fast forward to now and I’ve started to pick the project up again and am finishing the rest of the build. My question is that I want to run my system in FOC preferably and last year I bought a dual VESC 4 from enertion, just wondering if I should upgrade to the FOCBOXs or if I should use what I have. I ask because I have read a lot of threads about FOC being a bit sketchy on the older models. Many thanks, Freddie

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That depends, among other factors, on the rest of the system you are running. What about your Battery and Motor? Generally lower kv is better for FOC afaik.

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don’t use foc on those vescs. use bldc and pick up some focboxes off someone

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Getting a 10s4p pack from samsung 25r cells running dual 170kv motors

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Yeah that’s what I thought the general consensus would be :smile:

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I red a lot on here, most people using FOC on 4,10 - 4,12 have problems in a 12s configuration. In case of 10s and lower nearly no problems by most users.

I’m going do solder my own 4.12, and I think it will be fine with FOC on a 10s battery :slight_smile:

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Wouldn’t risk it either with this setup. 170 is a bit high.

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170kV with 10s? that’s extremely low

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You thinking I won’t get enough torque? :thinking:

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I meant for FOC, I only know of @Rich who successfully ran 10S FOC on standard 4.12 with 130kv. I myself popped a drv at 10S 168kv during regular low speed cruising.

@Freddiecook 170kv on 10s should be fine for torque in most circumstances and if you aren’t very heavy and/or in a hilly area

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ahh okay, I see enertion is still waiting for more FOCBOXes :smile: , anyone know of any other cheap/reputable suppliers? Forgot to add I’m in the UK

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Check it out this:

@telnoi

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Thanks man, interested :wink:

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It’s on the low end but I definitely wouldn’t say “extremely low”

I have a dual running 140kv on 10S

I’d say 120kv is “extremely low” for 10S

Some people gotta have da power and don’t go over 25mph anyway

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Let me know. Esk8.de tested their controllers rigurously with FOC/10s on mountainboards. They are most certainly capable.

Only reason I used bldc is because the vesc tool at the time had sketchy braking in FOC mode (with all vesc).

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I think you’ll get plenty of torque.

Lower kv = Less top speed = More torque

I am running 190kv motors with 10S battery, and I can climb any hill I can find. Even with a single motor, I can go up many hills.

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I don’t know enertion but I can confirm that HW4.12 from esk8.de is reliable for FOC with new FW. It should be safe with 170kv, it’s a fair offer from @telnoi for the 1.1 controller.

It depends on your gearing and wheel size how much torque the 170kv motors can deliver.