thats what is happening with the vesc 6. There are no similar and better drivers available than the DRV.
The next version will have the drv8301. The erpm limit of 60k is largely caused by pcb layout. We will do some testing in the next few weeks to see how far we can push the new hardware before getting errors caused by high erpm, We have optimized the pcb to keep the drv chip cooler since it does get hot on the original 4.12 pcb.
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Why there is a TRADEMARK over the logo… IS IT GOING TO BE OPEN SOURCE ???
Maybe just a way to avoid shitty vescs made with non-original BOM to be sold with such name. But I dont really know…
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Still kind of odd for a open source to get a trademark… Also who own the trademark Trampa or vedder ?
So now how can someone sell a trademark product without the consent of the owner… Now say hi to a 300 dollar vesc 
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I believe the best thing that could happen to the vesc would be a decent support ($$) to the creator. If vedder made the vesc a full-time job, the quality of the product would rise exponentially.
In addition, if he started selling by himself ,price would probably decrease, since I believe with a 30% net profit goal, he would be able to sell a vesc (4.12) for 100$ and make 30$/vesc (way more than any donation at the moment).
So probably you should be disappointed in the trademark just if you were a reseller.
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Interesting. Although, maybe the trademark is to prevent some old chum from slapping the name VESC (VEDDER. electronic. speed. controller) on a crappy Chinese ESC.
I would take a trademark even though it’s open source. Gotta find a way to distinguish quality and approve from cheap.
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Well, Cheap chinese vesc will still be for sale… since the trademark doesn’t apply in china…
@onloop I said if I was wrong id happily admit it and seems u were definently right about you hubs in general, and it seems like you might even be correct about vedder and his 6.0 vesc. I do agree however that even if it is not open source that he has no doubt earned the right to make some real profit
I totally agee with the trademark… I think it is the wright move to do… don’t get me wrong… it just that people should be aware that the vesc 6.0 won’t be a cheap product to get.
Trademark and open source are separate things. Trademark is claiming ownership of a name used in trade, it’s not a patent or a copyright. You could sell the exact same product under two different trademarks. So, for example, if Vedder keeps 6.0 open source he could sell the “VESC” as a brand name item. Other manufacturers could sell the same product, they would just have to call it something else, not VESC. Since he has trademarked the brand I could see current manufacturers of the VESC having to rename their product or sign licensing deals with Vedder in order to use his brand name on their product.
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Well, that is going to be interesting… to watch people reinventing the “VESC” name… 
(But still, that doesn’t put a cheaper price tag over original vesc)
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But the 2.14 or whatever version we’re at now is solid enough for a skateboard it seems. How many amps are you all needing…you’re all amp hogs!! I’ve never hit a temp cutoff with even a single hub motor. Am I missing something and down the road my older vesc will die from some type of attrition? 12s and foc and still going
What are the effects of coasting on erpm? I have 60 li ion cells coming in soon that I can arrange as needed once I understand the pros and cos of 10s and 12s with my motors. Would I get more range doing 10s6p vs 12s5p?
And I’m going dual 190kv motors from diy, 5000watt total which seems like a lot of power draw, if that changes anything.
Thanks
That’s is the ugliest logo I have ever seen.
LOL
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