It’s not 200 more! Some vendors here advertise their products without taxes to make things look cheaper. If you buy a VESC 6 together with one of our board you pay a lot less! The price depends on where you live and how high taxation is.
If a ESCape is 185 GBP with housing, that is for a European customer 222 Pound including the applicable British VAT of 20%. That is more than our customers pay when they buy a board from us with VESC 6 included.
I have bought a deck from you Frank, I missed this VESC 6 deal that is cheaper than a ESCape… Rebate?
I think Frank is talking about their complete boards where the VESC 6 is included. Not their single decks.
Rebate?..
Completes…
Not many on this forum buy trampa’s completes though…
DIY 
10char
That’s your guess.
My Fault, $100 was an exaggeration, it’s closer to $100-$50. But understand that $50 is a major difference when buying a ESC as that’s the difference between a Focbox and a Maytech. See how many people opt over saving 50. Now how this applies to a $100-$50 difference.
Frank, please excuse my French here, but who the fuck, on a builders forum is buying a complete tampa complete to save some bucks on a VESC? Deck? Maybe, Trucks? Sure Complete Drivetrain? Even I considered it. That’s like buying a Banshee or an Arcboard for the goddanm ESCs they use!
Lets be real Frank, there’s no saving at all. It’s like walking into a shop for one thing and walking out with a whole shopping cart of shit cause of the “sales”. You don’t save shit, you just end up spending more.
The latest Price i can find is:
The Latest Pricing Details i can find is:
but @LukePL & @stewii should be able to clarify.
But that’s a max of £130 without VAX, or £156 with VAX , which is €179.93 or $172.99 (The US don’t get charged VAT from what I’ve seen, please correct me if I’m wrong in that regard).
That’s a €150.07 difference(€330 - €179.93) a $177.01 difference ($350 - 172.99).
As for complete ESCape it is up to @stewii I’m just a guy that makes enclosure the best price I can. Your calculations are correct and I have no idea from where this 185GBP Frank got. Thing is that I believe that Trampa cost of producing VESC 6 is higher than stewii’s ESCape but does it mean that we have to pay for that? @onloop has managed to make great controller for good price so it’s can be done by a company. This discussion is kind of pointless as we will never know the cost structure and Trampa sales policy regarding Vesc 6 and even more pointless when after all what happen it seems that they are not willing to change that.
Hey @trampa maybe I can make you an enclosure that is much cheaper that what you currently have 
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You are assumming that new people joining this forum are similar to the existing ones.
I see nothing wrong buying trampa’s complete, it’s high quality and support at a cost. I also see nothing wrong with DYI-ing your way around and milking every $. To each its own. Maybe you’re in your 20’s and have time and no money, maybe you’re 45 and it’s the other way around.
Trampa will always have a sales pitch. Good for them I say, whatever it takes to make quality shit available and iterate until it gets better. Market and time will tell. But seems to me people are having an issue with the idea of it, not the end game.
We all know that newcomers arent the ones that spend the most on their first build too, compared to the ones that have been in the game for several years. Trampas are expenisve either way.
I guess you can build a less expensive emtb if you want to, but the majority of diy emtb`s here cost more than a pre-built trampa. In many cases- way more.
There’s nothing wrong with it, but buying a Trampa complete just to save in a VESC? Lol no
No one saying it’s wrong , no one cares about a Trampa complete. But saying buying one saves you money on a builders forum ? Fuck out of here, and this is coming from the guy willing to spend endless amount of money just so he doesn’t have to solder a single joint on a build.
Trampa sales pitch and how they go about is another matter for another time, but ain’t no way they’re going to come on here and have the audacity to say that ESCape is going to cost more with their own overpriced esc by buying a complete Drive Train.
1300 for a unbreakable custom spec board with VESC 6 and deck integrated cables and Carbon Monster Box for 1Kwh of LiPo Battery incl. Remote and Bluetooth module, LCD Battery indicator, bindings and all cables and connectors is not expensive. We are actually offering to cheap.
Frank
But you’ll have to buy a $300-700 battery too. Also I guess the 1300 is In pounds?
You have to buy the battery you want. If you are DIY, you can make a nice pack yourself. Sure Pound, we are a British company. Still a deal and a lot better in value than all other commercial boards out there. Quality to the buck is still unmatched. Trampa stocks all the stuff, we are no cash upfront and deliver 6 months later company. All of our boards are custom made to spec and usually delivered within 4-5 days after purchase. Just had a customer from California, who could not believe that the postman knocked on his door on Friday. He ordered on Tuesday. Someone has to build the board and this guy gets a salary.
I sometimes have the feeling that people compare apples to oranges. You can’t compare the prices a no profit group buy to prices that companies offer. Running a company is expensive. There is more involved than the price of the raw materials. Staff, pensions, health insurance, rent for warehouse, tools and machines, electricity and heating, truck and trailer, travel expenses, website, sourcing, product design, taxes and warranties and product returns and financing costs, and computers and furniture and and and. This all needs to be priced in. Otherwise you don’t make profits and if that is the case, you don’t have a business for long.
Most small companies like us struggle these days to survive. The mid class society is shrinking rapidly, with all the bad consequences for our society. The more people struggle, the more they are willing buy from big, cheap mass market sources to compensate low incomes and the more pressure there will be on society in general. Companies like us are the ones offering the jobs everyone wants and they are the ones paying the taxes. If you want everything for cheap, you should not complain if you don’t find a job. Economy is sending money in circles.
Motor mounts, Motors? Can’t really see the offer where i only need to add batteries. These seem to start at 1700 pounds or 1900 pounds.
Ok my fault. So this is a single drive and the once i have seen are dual drive.
