Electronics integrated in the deck vs enclosures, carbon vs aluminum mount (carbon sells better marketing wise, and while it doesn’t dissipate you’re sure it won’t break)
Standard gearing I would say 15/36 got 10s on 83mm flywheels clones
Could you transfer the conversation on the other thread to this one?
By the way, that’s not a market to underestimate. Evolve had a great success selling off road kits. That’s not a mountainboard, but hybrids/pneumatics are something that many people could need (just thinking of cobblestone pavements here in Italy)
I think the idea of a kit approved by members of the forum is fantastic, but what price and point exactly are we trying to make? The problem if we try to go for affordability is that there are already so many companies that make really cheap dual drive kits, so I think it would be hard to market something like this for a decent price
Well… we still need to keep the ‘DIY’ spirit into this one, I think, to ‘keep it alive’, it needs to be at least partly still ‘diy’’ and offer later customizability and repair possibility as diy made boards…
No, there are not many companies that do that.
Excluding Chinese, this market starts from 500 € for bad kickstarter boards that are probably half rebranded stuff. Then there’s the high range, 1100€ for singles, 1500 for duals. That’s what it is. Evolve noticed it, and developed the one.
Now, what should, or could, we do?
First of all, I think nobody can invest that much money. That’s why LHB couldn’t do it by himself. I think it should be organised like a little closed group buy. Let’s say I can put the money for one build in Italy, another one can get 2 in Germany and so on. Only trusted people, (not saying I’m one of those, but not newbies that have been on the forum for two weeks), we get a MOQ and pretty low prices. Only quality stuff but not the best of the best. Calibers instead of ronins (possibly genuine ones, maybe getting a deal with manufacturer), good motors but not necessarily sealed maytech’s that go for 110€ even from China, buying cells from nkon in bulk and getting them spotwelded as wanted here in europe. I wouldn’t go cheap with electronics, we would need a vesc producer and maybe we could go with the new smart bms that’s starting to get interest (@fedestanco was thinking about a group buy production)
In the end (personal experience) we can get a good 10s3p 25r battery with bms, 6374 sensored 190kv, carbon mount (that’s like 25 euros and never breaks), clone flywheels and calibers. I got this for about 500 euros, but I wasn’t buying from the manufacturer, lost like 40e on battery alone, 20 on BMS, 30 on motor. A board for 750 can be built cause I have one that costed me 200 less. That’s all we need to know.
@lox897@Okami Thanks to both of you for the feedback. @lox897, yes it is a complete board but there is still several parts to consider, and main expenses come from the drivetrain and battery. @Okami I like where you’re going with this… the DIY spirit is definitely something we could use to market considering that’s what this forum is all about. Maybe we could use @longhairedboy’s esk8.build domain as the website, and make it a custom kit thing. Like they get to go through and select parts (decks, drive type, battery, etc.) and we send it to them as a kit with some explanation and tools and a link to this forum so that they can build it? Also, if we decide to try this I think the parts should come from venders on the forum. We can get things from different people, for example:
yeh that’s is what we are trying (or at least plan) to do:
To attract and develop some sort of ‘work groups’ which focus just on maybe one task at hand… then somehow come together (or ship parts over) and the next group continues on…
This is, if we really plan to develop this as One board made by many…
Probably opening an topic is the best course now… as it totally depends on what kind of people are gonna be interested into jumping into this and how many from a relatively close region between each other…